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  They are deleting my posts on YOUTUBE : Why XJW Activists Quit ... and also Lloyd Evans

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  talk about censorship!

  i know there are many lloyd evans loyalists.

  that's fine with me, but when you delete posts because you do not like the questions raised is what chinese censorship feels like.

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  Talk about censorship! I know there are many Lloyd Evans loyalists. That's fine with me, but when you delete posts because you do not like the questions raised is what Chinese censorship feels like. I posted three different times, and all three posts were deleted.

  Someone posted: His sexual proclivities does NOT negate his excellent activism. ACTIVIVIISM IS HIS IMPORTANT WORK - SO PEOPLE SHOULD STOP DRIVING HIM AWAY FROM IT

  I asked, ''How can Lloyd Evans testify as a former elder on the child abuse cases against the Jehovah Witnesses not negate his activism, while he admits to taking a trip to Thailand to visit prostitutes?

  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/10/former-jehovahs-witness-elders-call-for-mandatory-reporting-of-child-sexual-abuse

  Two former Jehovah’s Witness elders have called for mandatory reporting of child sexual abuse, saying the organisation believes it is “answerable only to God”.

  Duncan Corbett, who was an elder for 18 years, told the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse that the protection of minors and the handling of abuse claims must be taken out of the church’s hands. “Let them deal with the sin and the authorities handle the crime,” he told a hearing in London.

  Lloyd Evans, another former elder who now campaigns against religious fundamentalism, said: “This is a group that feels they are answerable only to God … They don’t feel as though they need to yield to any regulations that are imposed on them.”
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  But he's not too bright, taking pics showing what he was up ...

  Not only does he take photos ( isn't your memory a good enough storage unit ), stores his photos in an iPhone ( where your wife can find and flip through the incriminating evidence). He boasts about his exploits to a lawyer believing that she would be proud of his trip ( ''Lloyd, she's beautiful...hope you enjoyed your time together, even though you have a wife and two children. And by the way, where did you find the money for the trip? Hope you didn't use the community donations! ). Then, stupidly makes a 1 hour 39 minute video admitting his exploits on a video board, where...''anything you say maybe used against you''!
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  New Book - The Reluctant Prostate

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  hey everyone, i'm writing a new book.. it's the entirely fictional story about a character called "roy devons", an obese clown who was kicked out of clown college because he couldn't stop touching himself.

  he launches his own youtube channel where he tells the world how wrong and unfunny clowns really are.

  the world already knows this, and never really had much todo with clowns anyway, although some other ex-clowns felt like they needed to be reminded regularly of their past lives.. he hits upon the idea of asking for donations to support efforts to convince ex-clowns to get their prostates checked.

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  Included in the book are some discreet photos of the prostate exam visits! Viewer discretion advised!

  

  Here is the beautiful KANNIKA! Talk about a nurse who loved her job. KANNIKA had me facing up for the exam, instead of the usual face down. FIVE STARS FOR KANNIKA!

  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  I think she would make a great Public Relations spokesman for the Watchtower Society. Did the Society donate money for her cause to make this video?

  Lloyd struck my nerve with his debacle. I had a father who was a misogynist and a narcissist just like Lloyd and the Watchtower Society.

  In this video she says, ''And if she loves Lloyd and wants to stay with him after this, then more power to her.'' I see too much of my mom in this statement! Maybe Lloyd's wife is fearful for her life or is afraid to leave him for financial reasons. WHO WOULD'NT LOVE A MAN THAT TREATS A WOMAN LIKE THAT!

  My mom spent 59 years with my dad who verbally and physically abused her from day one. He was jealous of everyone that came near my mom or tried to have a conversation with her. She was not allowed to drive a car, because she might go out and meet another man. My dad would end relationships with their married friends if the other husband would start talking to my mom. My dad accused my mom of cheating on him with different men, without any proof. He even accused her that my younger brother was fathered by someone else.

  My dad controlled all the money in the house and how the money would be spent. She would need to ask his permission and what she needed the money for. If he didn't agree with the request, he wouldn't give her any money.

  My mom was told numerous time to leave him, since he was so abusive towards her. Family and friends would offer to let us live with them until she got back on her feet. She always refused because she was always afraid of him.

  While our mom was in hospice care at home, he threatened her with a knife and a gun. When my brother and I found out, we called the police to have him removed from the house, because he was a danger to my mom. After one year of living in peace and quiet without my dad, she passed away.

  My father lived the remaining 5 years of his life with his nephew. My brother has spent close to $30,000 on lawyer fees because our cousin forged his signature on the house deed, leaving half of the estate to him.
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  Gossip

  by Rattigan350 in

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  question for former elders:.

  how much of your time was spent quelling gossip and rumors floating around.

  i'm not talking about csa type stuff, just regular insignficant stuff that people occupied their time over..

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  Elders didn’t ‘quell’ anything.
  If anything, they told their wives. Then these stupid women told every douchebag pioneer (who actually felt entitled to know EVERYTHING about everybody). I’m not exaggerating when I say everything.

  There was a family of six who attended my old congregation. Husband, wife, three teen girls,19... 17... 15... and a younger brother. At our Tuesday night Ministry School meeting, the elder announced that the 15 year old was disfellowshipped.

  The family left the 15 year old at home alone, while the rest of the family attended the 3 meetings during the week. I found that to be cruel punishment. Child services should have been called on the family.

  I found out from my mom that she was disfellowshipped for ''fornicating'' with her ''worldly boyfriend.'' Who told my mom? How did that information get out? It probably came from one of the gossiping elder's wife. Elders tell their wives everything. Most wives do keep secrets, but some gossip falls through the cracks.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Ten years ago, John Cedars a.k.a. Lloyd Evans wanted Rick Fearon to apologize for, '' verbal excrement and dishing out insults.'' Ten years later, Lloyd Evans refuses to apologize to his wife and step down from his community ( who donated money for his activism ) for spending their donations on trips that involved hookers on many occasions. TALK ABOUT BEING CAUGHT WITH YOUR PANTS DOWN!

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    cedars10 years ago

    Thanks minimus, twitch and sir82. I'm not completely naive you know! I know Rick thrives on attention. Normally I can just let him get on with it, and as I've said before, the lunacy of his tirades speaks for itself. However, I'm also a believer in people apologizing when they cross the line, which I feel Rick has done with this latest thread. He no longer seems content to spew forth verbal excrement - he now seems intent on dishing out insults and patronizing remarks against any who would oppose his methods (which is by far the majority).

    Since a good percentage of those who visit this forum are faders like me, and Rick has now effectively branded any who won't man the pickets and/or unveil their identities as cowards, I feel an apology should be forthcoming.

    Just because his behaviour is wearisome and predictable, doesn't mean he shouldn't be called to account when he goes too far.

    Cedars
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  Can someone explain to me,why somebody can say that he is Sexually Repressed and went to prostitute,because he was a JW(or GBW...Governing Body Worshiper) because JW can't masturbate,watch porn,or do "sexting",ect. when that same somebody wrote a book with many,many DETAILS, on how when he was a JW Pioneer,M.S.,MARIED ELDER, he was masturbating,watching porn and SEXTING the hole time...????

  
  

  HERE ARE SOME READER REVIEWS ON HIS BOOK: THE RELUCTANT APOSTATE

  The writer is quite brazen in discussing his repressed sexuality and personal frustrations with it prior to his marriage. On the surface this doesn’t necessarily present a problem, but this is where the writer’s inexperience in writing a book seeps through his veneer of confidence. Particularly cringe-inducing was the writer’s plentiful references to his self-pleasuring habits. This reaches its climax when describing his sexual frustration while attending MTS courses with a quite embarrassing conclusion.

  First of all, I am shocked that the author’s wife Dijana (directly named in the book by Lloyd Evans) has to have her own husband’s infidelities broadcast and described in detail to complete strangers. In the book he had described going to the elders first to report these indiscretions as his wife’s idea, but my main thought when reading this was why put her through all this

  This guy is a sick pervert. He has an obsession with masturbation and feels the need to document it in this book. I don't see how it is relevant and helpful. Please seek therapy.
  

  The author gives ridiculous arguments for his points also. I will give one example and I am done: In the chapter on masterbation the author says that there is no direct condemnation on the behavior. I guess he forgot when Jesus said to look upon a woman to desire her has already violated the commandment against adultery.
  
  
  
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  Thank you for clarifying that this about taking a person down even if you have to torch the "community" whilst doing it, rather than actual concern for alleged crimes involving minors.

  Bottlegate: Meeting a Governing Body member at the liquor store
  

  (Cedars' vlog no. 263) What happens when a group of religious leaders regularly bombards their followers with HD propaganda videos of themselves? Inevitably, one of them will eventually get caught by a member of the public in a compromising situation. Enjoy the spectacle of Tony Morris, a member of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses, as you've never seen him before!

  

  Lloyd Evans calling Anthony Morris...'' an arrogant, pigheaded, small-minded, homophobic, asshole,'' because he went out and bought one thousand dollars of liquor.
  
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  When I pay someone for a services rendered, I have no idea what they are doing with that money. If I hired a landscaper to maintain my yard and he used some of the money to buy a hooker, it isn't my initial concern. My initial concern is whether or not he does a good job in my yard.

  Let's call my company, XYZ CORPORATION. I help battered woman. I take your $2000 donation for helping battered woman with housing, food and clothing, while they try to get back on their feet.

  I decide to use (secretly ) some of your donation to a nice jaunt to Las Vegas. I decide to room at the luxurious Caesar's Palace. $300 A NIGHT. I dine at the best steak house, with plenty of expensive wine. I take a limo to a attend a four star '' Topless Review Show.''

  Out of the $2000, I used $1500 on myself, while $500 went towards the cause you donated your hard earned money.

  Would you be concerned on where your money went?
  
  
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  Watchtower Study: How Strong Will Your Faith Be?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  the watchtower—study edition | november 2021. study article 47. how strong will your faith be?.

  16 note the example of geydi, a sister from guatemala.

  her husband, edi, was murdered as they were returning home from a congregation meeting.

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  Conversely, the religion itself was anything but encouraging.

  1. A ministerial servant at the Kingdom Hall, told me that being "far from Jehovah results only in death". He passed that remark as he knew that my sister was disfellowshipped at the time of her death. Until that day, I didn’t know I could actually be hurt by words.

  At my mothers funeral, a pompous, self-righteous elder ( who I disliked ) walked up to me while paying his respects and said to me in a smug tone, '' If you ever want to see your mother again, you need to come back to the Kingdom Hall.'' ( meaning my mom would be resurrected, and I would be dead if Armageddon arrived while I was still inactive)